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Upgrade #117: Sugar Christmas

Is Apple a big business trapped in the body of a startup? This week on Upgrade, Jason and Myke Hurley discuss that issue, say lots of things that might be quoted out of context later, and then settle in to watch 1984’s “Gremlins.”

Episode linkMP3 (1 hour, 54 minutes)